Monday, October 31, 2011

Review > Blank Slate Climbing > Blank Slate

This review is a long one, we've had some back and forth with John about the review and because we had many questions that needed to be answered. So this one is a little different folks... here's how it went.

We wrote the review as usual, we had questions so we had John answer them before he read the review; so the interview we have with him lower down on the page is with him not having read the review, anything that is in the main body of the review in italics are Johns comments after he answered the questions and when he'd read the review, he helpfully points out some stuff that we didn't ask

Here we go:

Blank Slate is a phrase that means "Something that has yet to be marked, determined, or developed" so what are we looking at here? Well to avoid confusion I will refer to Blank Slate Climbing as BSC and the product that we're looking at as the Blank Slate. It's kind of tricky when the name of a product and the name of the company are the same :) Here’s why we like Blank Slate as a name: In one sense, Blank Slate refers to a blank canvas for the owner to determine how they want their board to be, it’s up to them. In another sense, Blank Slate is about breaking through to the next level.

When you’re at a plateau in anything—climbing, work, art, life—our philosophy is that, to break through that plateau, you need to go completely back to the drawing board and re-evaluate everything, not just continue the same old things expecting different results. To break through, you must start from a Blank Slate, in every possible contributing aspect.


So now you are now wondering what we're looking at here... well they say a picture speaks a thousand words so here you go:


Yup that is pretty much it, need we say more? Ok, it's a board with some holds on it... but what's that bit at the back? Aha! The bit that looks like a pull up bar... you know, this bit:

Well that's the bit that attaches to your door frame, that attaches to the board and then.. and this is the genius part... it hangs like so:
So now don't have to drill holes for when you want to put up a hang board in your parents homes, rented apartment or new home. The argument your parents gave you to not have a board is done, finished and well and truly kaput! To say that this product is genius is like calling Einstein "a little bit smart", also to say that this is a complete product would be remiss from our part. The product is great, truly great but there are some short comings, really really minor points and something that if you get one should be aware of.

Before we get into the full on meat of the review, let us walk you through the day we got the board and what we did... and then the next couple of days. There is a resounding theme over these days that is quite amusing, but a very important message for anyone that buys a Blank Slate.

Arrival And Building:
We were waiting for some people to come over for dinner, the doorbell rings and instead of dinner guests it's the UPS guy. He's struggling up the stairs at the end of what was a miserable day outside with a huge box. Seeing the size of the box we knew what it was... dinner was going to be late. After paying the good man some money for import fees (one day people will remember to put lower declared values on packages that are international) the box is dragged to the living room and is unpacked.

Now if you're at all normal in any way shape or form you will discard the instructions, or take a fleeting glance at them and then build away. Thankfully BSC being a forward thinking company didn't include any instructions!! This isn't them not packaging their product incorrectly it's them being green, you can get the user manual online. Now, if you don't have say a handy iPad etc then you're either going to be sitting on the floor where your computer is building this, or in our case using my iPhone and then running back and forth to my computer screen because we sometimes needed a better look at what we were doing. The whole ethos behind no instructions is to save the planet, so don't just go and print them, do it the slightly longer and harder way.

What you're going to get in the box is this:
  • Blank Slate Panel with pre installed t-nuts
  • J bars
  • J bar plugs
  • Crossbar with foam grips
  • Back support
  • Back support felt
  • 6 x 2 1/4" counter sunk bolts
  • 2 x 2 1/2" socket bolts
  • 16 washers
  • 8 nuts
  • 17 teeth washers
  • 2 silicone bands
  • Hex tool
Basically if you don't like Ikea furniture, but you do love climbing then get some friends over :D Remember how we said if you were normal you'd only glance at the instructions? Well don't! Actually read them because although with a combined education of 4 degrees, one masters and jobs like video game designer, train driver, machine designer and biochemist in the room you will miss something... and we did (more on this later) Don't get us wrong here, with the quickest glance at the screen we were able to put the Blank Slate together, it's easy, it's easier than the last piece of furniture you built. All of the parts were there, the instructions are through.. it took us all of five minutes to put together. It was so quick and easy it was almost crazy.

As we were building it we got to play with the bolts etc that hold this board up and it's a list of high quality parts. All of the bolts are hardened steel, same with the nuts, the hex tool is like the one Metolius sent us when we reviewed one of their hold packs (but waaay better) and then you look at the wood, it's good quality and the finish is superb, same with the matching back support; these pieces are just really well made and pretty. The cross bar that we received well it was pretty obvious that it'd been used a little the finish was scratched up in a few places and despite this minor fact everything was just beautiful

So it's built... and by now we have it hanging on a door frame... and thus far you've not heard what we did wrong. Wait.

Tweaking:
Putting the Blank Slate together takes no time. To put it onto a door frame is quick as well, you just swing it up, put the back brace over the top of your door frame and the foam pads of the crossbar rest on the front of the frame... it's that simple. What you need to do now is play around a little bit to get the board as vertical as possible, playing with the back support and the adjustments on the J bars will take a little time, you'll need to put up and take down the Blank Slate a few times. Overall, this took us about 30 minutes, so we've spent 35 minutes of our time and we're ready to rock. All you need is some holds... or a board.




Holds and Boards:
Now the Blank Slate will take two boards, one from Axarte that is being designed as we speak and another that will be announced soon. We'll be looking at the boards in a separate review later on. The holds you can get from BSC are these:
Easy Rocks
Hard Rocks














Both sets of holds are from Revolution Climbing, if you have a keen eye one of the images at the start of the review has grey holds, which are from Metolius (Yeah we have a keen eye) So this basically means that you can put whatever holds you want onto your Blank Slate, hell this thing is a BLANK SLATE so you can screw any board you want onto it, here's what our board ended up looking like by the end of the evening:
 
That's right, the Metolius 3D Simulator and the DRCC V3 Hangboard are installed and ready to rock above the kitchen door frame.

What We Did Wrong!

We didn't read the instructions. We glanced at them but we didn't read the really quite comprehensive instructions on use of the product... oh read them people read them. Here's a quick list of the stuff we didn't read and some thoughts on them:
Ooops, we've been doing pull ups on the bar like a bunch of monkeys that we are. The way the board works is the force of the climber pulling down torques the board into the wall above the door trim and keeps it in place. It's a shame that most peoples door frames aren't like ours here at CHR... massive and bombproof) so we don't have much of an issue doing this, but we'd not recommend it in any way shape or form
Well we skim read the instructions and looked the the images as we built it. Thankfully it's simple to put together so we had no problems
Well here we have a problem as we've been campussing from one board to the other :( Now we've had no problems doing what we've been doing BUT there was an instance where I (Jeremy) was static hanging from the board on one side only and we heard a very loud crack. What that was was our back bolts sliding a little from having four people bounce around on the board like lunatics for an hour, needless to say I dropped the floor pretty damn quickly and then took the Blank Slate down and re tightened the bolts so they were really really tight, since then there hasn't been a problem
Yeah right :)

The Blank Slate and Use:
Here is where we fall into the real meat of the review, there's good and bad and there have been lots of comments from the people that have used this board over the last week... this is a review that we will keep updating as we use the Blank Slate more and more.

  1. The Blank Slate is great, there's no doubting that but there are some issues that we can see. No matter how you set the board up and no matter how tight you put everything together this product relies upon your door trims being pretty solid... to a degree, why do we say to a degree? Because the board when in use pulls against the wall ABOVE the door frame and not no much on the frame itself, so the load is distributed across the frame above the door and a little on the trim itself. So if this product is your answer to drilling holes in your parents or landlords walls then it is only a partial solution, check that your wall / frame is solid beforehand. Now we went back to John on this point and we asked about the door frame / trim issue, he in turn went to his engineer that helped design the board and got us an answer... see Question 4 of the interview for the answer!!
  2. The Blank Slate does move slightly when in use. It's not much but there is some flex, we've had people from 100lbs to 200lbs on the board and it does move. Now this is when were were going from board to board so after seeing the warnings we did the same test with just hanging and pull ups, our board is totally vertical and there is still some flex. It's not bad and it is something that you'll have to get used to.
  3. When you put a climbing hold onto the board you have to use (or it is suggested to stop spinners) washers so they are locked to the board. No real problems there, but it does become a pain in the ass over time as if you rotate the holds you use from one set to another then you need to get more washers. Blank Slate will send you more washers, we checked so you can avoid that pesky trip to the hardware store
  4. The holds (we don't have them) aren't mirror images of each other. Look at the hard set, the pockets are the same, what happens if you want to do pull ups? You'll be pulling up on the same pockets... on a single angle bias and that kind of sucks. Why in hells name don't BSC use a system set of holds rather than just a random selection?? Revolution Climbing actually make system holds and they have holds that are no biased or left right biased so they should have used them instead... hell Revolution Climbing and Pusher are the same company, so there is so many holds to choose from from so many sets that it seems like a simple fix :). Again, John who is super happy to answer questions pointed out that "you can put any holds you want on the board" so you can have what you want, and that Blank Slate will be offering more holds in the future
  5. The Blank Slate is made for static movements only... no dynamic movements, so what you have is a way to get your hang board onto the wall safely (awesome) but you can only do pull ups on it, no training regimes on your board where you move dynamically between holds, you'll have to drop off of the board, replace your hands and then continue. So basically this means that when you have climbing holds on the board you're using them for pull ups, you can't monkey around between the holds, you're just doing pull ups... it's not a bad thing but it's something that people should be aware of. You can bounce around as much as you wish, or wait for the stool to be released... it's a question of how comfortable you feel doing this. We have disregarded most of the suggested uses and apart from flex we've had no problems
NOW lets looks at point 5 here. Lets face it, unless you've got something like the DRCC System Holds kicking about the place (or any other system holds for that matter) so you can have a board that is symmetrical then there isn't any point in putting holds onto the Blank Slate, get a hang board and get it on there and then use it as your mount.

So pull ups are fine... what the Blank Slate is more intended for is STATIC HANGING... aha! Reading section 3 the Intended Use section gets you to the training section!!! Controlled pull ups, static hangs and eating salad is all covered here (Whoever wrote the manual has a sense of humor and they LOVE salad!) Now that we've found the intended use of the Blank Slate we're better informed about what we can and more importantly what we can't do on it, it's something that should really be included on their webpage so people can make a more informed decision on their purchase.

We were so perplexed by the instructions and what we thought it was going to be intended for that we sat down with John Reed to ask him about what the board was designed for...

And Now A Quick Interview With John Reed
1. Name and position
John Reed, Founder, Outdoor Soul, parent of Blank Slate Climbing

2. You designed the Blank Slate, what was it's intended purpose?
The original purpose was to remove the construction phase (measuring, sawing, re-
measuring, obligatory-return-trip-to-the-hardware-store, re-sawing, stud-finding, etc.) out
of having a home hang-board.

In creating the Blank Slate, we wanted to also have an adjustable height board so that
taller and shorter climbers could use the same hang-board without having to hold their
feet off the ground or use a stool. Lastly, we added a mount for a smart-phone to ward
off the boredom of long hang-board sessions.

Back Story:
Before moving to the mountains, I lived in an apartment in San Francisco. I was
climbing 3-4 times a week and trying to get better and, like a lot of people, decided no
matter how big of a pain, I needed to install a home hang-board. 6 hours, 20 screws into
my rented apartment’s doorway, 1 can of paint, and 1 sore arm from hand-sawing ¾”
plywood, I had a hang-board over my doorway that looked nice-ish.

About 18 months later, the hang-board had delivered and I was climbing almost two
grades higher, but it was time to move to the mountains, so it needed to come down. 4
hours, 1 can of spackle, and 1 can of paint later, I was ready to get at least half of my
deposit back, hopefully.

Given this experience, I decided to figure out a better solution in my next place, and the
Blank Slate prototype was born. It allowed easy install and remove, and it sit at a better
height—my girlfriend (now wife) could reach it without a step stool.

3. How does the physics / mechanics of the board work? (feel free to geek out here)
You’re basically taking advantage of the structural integrity of the door frame, which is
built to standard building codes, and will support up to 300 lbs of Blank Slate. The force
down on the board creates a torque against the wall called the cantilever effect, and this
torque holds the Blank Slate and user up.

The trim on the back side of the doorway only supports the weight of the back half of the
Blank Slate (the board and holds are held up with the cantilever effect, even without
someone hanging). These physics create a very secure board when installed correctly.

4. We're guessing that you need pretty strong door frames / trim to use this product?
We have installed the Blank Slate on a doorway with very week (tack nail, thin as it
comes) trim that was actually broken on one side, and it works flawlessly. According to
our engineer, it’s the cantilever effect, the pressure against the doorframe, that provides
all of the support. As long as the trim can hold the weight of the Blank Slate in place
(more accurately, just the back half of the Blank Slate), then it can support 300 lbs.

5. Was there no way of making the cross bar into a functional pull up bar without screws?
Screws into the wall or trim were out of the question because we wanted to avoid damage
to the wall or trim.

Many home pull-up bars, such as the popular P90X, allow pull-ups directly on the cross-
bar. Our original engineering calculations concentrated on the board
force, so until we’ve verified with our engineer, for liability reasons, our manual states
clearly not to hang on the crossbar.

Theoretically, because the force is downward, you should still have the cantilever effect
pulling down on the cross-bar. In our view though, doing pull-ups from the bar is less
than ideal because 1) you’ll have to hold your feet up, and 2) you might whack your head
on the board on the way up, possibly reminding you you’re a climber, not a meat-head.
Ha, ha.

6. Now the flex. Is there a way of making the system so it doesn't flex when in use or would
making the J bars shorter mean it'd be harder to put up and down (Note to the readers:
The Blank Slate is easy to put up and down once configured so you can still close your
door) or was the design a compromise between the two?

The original prototype was one piece of monstrous, unnecessarily thick, welded steel
that, once you heaved into the doorway (meat-head style), still flexed noticeably,
although it was likely the wood doorframe was doing all the flexing. Using that thickness
steel in the production version would 1) make it unnecessarily difficult to put in the
doorway due to increased weight, 2) cost more, and 3) not reduce the flex noticeably.

The j-bar lengths were calculated based on the wide variety of ceiling heights, doorway
widths, trim widths, and user heights.

7. When is the Axarte board coming in and when can we see it as it's their first
board?

It'll be here very soon

8. So holds. Why didn't you go for system style holds or left hand right hand bias holds so
people could make their own hangboard?

We have different offerings in the works. Our first thought was that hang-boards would
fill the need of left/right exact matching, but for holds, most would want a little more
variety. We’re open, it’s all about what customers want, and we have some training
specific holds in stock we plan to sell soon, among other holds sets. This is the Blank
Slate, it’s up to the customer what they want to do with it.

9. We spoke about the kick stool that you're designing that will work with the Blank Slate,
do you feel that having the two will enable people to be able to move between the holds
safely?

Yes, after testing the Blank Slate for a while during the prototype phase, I found that
having a little stool to put my feet in better replicated climbing—it got my back, legs, and
feet in on the training, rather than just my forearms and fingers. I think a dedicated stool
that won’t move around or tip over, and that has foot holds, will be ideal.

It’s interesting that I only came up with the stool idea after having the prototype for
years. The difference is the recently created smart-phone holder. With a smart-phone
there, I’ve had many hour plus sessions to think about things like a stool. Before having
the watch-a-movie option, I could never stand to use a hang-board for long periods of
time, and now, I look forward to it.

10. So the stool will make the Blank Slate into a more rounded climbing system?
Yes, definitely, and the stool will also work with the Solution Climber’s desk.

11. What else do you have up your sleeve? I've seen the design of the desk and I'm intrigued!
In this whole process of creating Blank Slate, I had moved to using a standing desk to
alleviate back pain (which worked marvelously, I’ll never go back to sitting). So, I’d be
at a standing desk in one room, working or surfing, and then go to the other room to hang
on the Blank Slate.

This lead to the invention of the Solution—a standing desk that doubles as a climbing
boulder. While you’re working, you can get a hang in while you’re on a call or just
taking a break. While you’re working out, you can put on a video to keep your mind
occupied.

The Solution lead to creating the mount for a smart-phone (and future tablet mount) for
the Blank Slate.

As far as other things up our sleeve, that’s a big YES. Our next big thing will do no less
than revolutionize the sport of indoor climbing! You heard it here first, folks.

12. We think you've done a stand up job of making the Blank Slate and bringing it to market.
Anyone you want to thank for making it happen?

Thanks, we’re glad to hear that! I would definitely like to thank Brett Boeckel, who has
run Blank Slate Climbing from the beginning in addition to working on other ventures for
Outdoor Soul. Also, thanks to Dustin Buckthal of Vertical Solutions, who has done
invaluable work on product design, among many other things, including work for
Outdoor Soul.

SUGGESTED USES:
We don't have a symbol for what this is :) The suggested use for this product is as a hang board mount and if you're using holds then as more of a climbing simulator but in a pull up way not in a door mounted monkey about from hold to hold way.

Either way, if you don't have time to get to the gym or you're in a office and you're allowed to put this up then do so, its a good way to get a quick fix and a quick pump on. The one problem you may find like some of us over here is that having a mounting platform that is vertical kind of sucks, we don't like straight up and down pull ups... pretty much ever, that's why we like the Metolius board on there because it's angled and it's nicer on the ol' elbows; thankfully the Blank Slate does flex a little so you do get a slight angle when you're on it. Now in the future there will be a variable version of this board available... stay tuned we'll let you know when it's released

OVERALL BUILD

We'll list the parts that come with the board:

  •  Price: $129 + shipping
    • Board: The Grill: $59
    • Holds:
    • Hard: 6 holds $29
    • Easy:  8 holds $39
  • High-quality stained and treated birch wood board: 30″ x 19″ (light or dark stain)
      • Looks awesome in dark stain which is what we have
    • Assemble with 8 burly bolts
      • Hardened steep bolts
    • A combination of foam padding, plastic and felt prevent door trim damage
      • Good quality
    • 17 holes with standard t-nuts for holds and fingerboards
      • The t nuts are screwed in which is a nice touch
    • Powder-coated high-grade steel components
      • Very good quality
    • Climbing hold hex tool
      • Two keys welded together, nicely done
    • Crossbar smartphone mount kit
      • We call them rubber bands :)
      • To be accurate : ), they’re the same as those yellow Lance Armstrong LiveStrong bands. And, man, they work perfectly and add no additional cost to the customer.
        Honestly, we tried many different methods to attach a smart- phone and this was easily the best, most universal, and cheapest for the customer! I love them, and they won’t wear out.]

    • Crossbar: 42″ Board: 30″ x 19″
      • Nice quality, ours arrived with some wear on it

The Blank Slate, you know it's intended uses and you know it's limits. There's not much to write here because every single piece of hardware that came with it is superb, the finish on the board itself is great and once it's put together (which again is easy) it does exactly what it's made for! There isn't anything to complain about apart from the crossbar that looked like it'd been used before but that's forgivable because it could have been from something in the packaging.
 
WHAT IS IT MADE FROM:
  • High-quality stained and treated birch wood board: 30″ x 19″ (light or dark stain)
  • Assemble with 8 burly bolts
  • A combination of foam padding, plastic and felt prevent door trim damage.
  • 17 holes with standard t-nuts for holds and fingerboards
  • Powder-coated high-grade steel components
  • Climbing hold hex tool
  • Crossbar smartphone mount kit (rubber bands)
  • Crossbar: 42″ Board: 30″ x 19″

PACKING / SHIPPING:
Not so good, everything was loose in the box, this is due to the board being so big.

RATING:
Noodles:
Our hats are off to BSC for getting this product to the market, I've had something like this kicking around for a few years... it involves two pull up bars some wood and some brackets. My version isn't anywhere near as user friendly or well designed, but it did get the job done; as does the Blank Slate. When you're in a fix and you need a fix then this could well be the cure, it's a jack of one trade right now and that's pull ups but it does master that trade pretty darn well if your door frames are up for it.

Now I'll be honest (like always) and I wrote this review with a lot of input from the usual crew. This is going to be an ongoing review as we use it more and more and as we put different boards onto it, we've done a week with it now and so far things are going good. We've pointed out the flaws and problems that we've seen as we've built / used and have moved it about from door frame to door frame so if you're thinking about getting one you know what we've found; hell if you get one then post a comment on this review (good or bad) and let us know what you've found.

Look despite what we've said above lets face it, it's either the gym or a pull up bar and pull up bars suck. Christmas is coming and your parents, girlfriend etc is looking for what to get you for a present. The Blank Slate feels the void (for me) between that dreaded bar, work and not being able to get to the gym and having your own (larger) wall. I'm lucky, I have a wall where I can climb to my hearts content but I like having this above my kitchen door so when I'm cooking or talking to guests I can get a quick work out in without locking myself in a room and thus being anti social.

Sure we should have sat down and read through the instructions before we jumped about on the board, but then again Blank Slate should have mentioned on their site what this product is really for. Now, even though we know what it's for we'll be CHR about it and we'll use it as we wish, we know the risks and we'll push it as far as it'll go and we'll report back. For now we're using it as a hang board mount, once our DRCC S Holds turn up then we'll use it with them and then we'll report back... if we don't break it then all the hang board reviews will probably end up on this board... so lets face it, I love it and you're going to see a whole lot of it before we're done :)

Now as always would I suggest you buy one?

You now know what the Blank Slate is for... chances are you have a door somewhere just begging for this.... I love it, I love that I can watch TV whilst hanging in my kitchen doorway... get one for your loved one for Xmas, they'll love you for it :) Just remember to eat lots of salad :D

Chris:
To say that I was excited about the product is an understatement, I told Jeremy to tell me the second it arrived so I could bring some people over who have the "parent" issue so they could see it and see what I was talking about :) I'll be honest the flex takes some getting used to, but once you do you suddenly have this training device that can be moved about the house in minutes and it means I can train when I like... I don't have the wall like Jeremy and my schedule is tight these days for getting to the gym :(

I'm going to see if I can steal this one without Jeremy noticing, chances are I'll be caught read handed once it moves. I've wanted something like this for many years and now it's here, so I'm happy and I know what I want to get for the holidays, it's simple, elegantly designed (although I think the J bars are too long) and it does it's job... job done!

PROS:
  • Fits any door frame
  • Takes holds or hang boards, it's an elegant solution
  • Your parents / landlord can't complain because you can take it down
  • Looks pimp
CONS:
  • You have to get used to the flex
  • Slightly heavy and bulky for shipping (but it IS a board)
  • Not all of the holds are available right now (Minor because you can get holds from lots of places)

21 comments:

MJB said...

Hi guys,

I just found out about this online and I agree: it's genius! I can't believe it hasn't been around for ages, it's so obvious and simple.

Thanks for the thorough review. I haven't been climbing for a while now, but this board makes me want to start training like crazy, haha.

When I reach a level that will let me justify buying this board, I'll let you know.

Cheers,
Maria

Attackinson said...

Great review! I was wondering how you guys went about attaching the metolius simulator to the blank slate, being as only the two widest holes match up to the preinstalled t-nuts. Did you have to drill new holes or are the two widest ones enough to hold the hangboard firmly in place? Thanks!

-jon said...

i was actually wondering how you attached the metolius board, since the bolt holes don't match up. did you just screw right into the BSC?

-jon said...

i was actually wondering how you attached the metolius board, since the bolt holes don't match up. did you just screw right into the BSC?

ntmb said...

it's just screwed on, but Blank Slate do have boards that have matching holes

emac said...

Do you know the measurements for the door frame it will fit into?

I live in an old home with non-standard door frames. This width is normal but the wall is very thick and the trim is almost double the height of a "standard" house.

Thanks!

ntmb said...

Same as mine then :) My trim is 6 inches high and the struts are adjustable so you should be fine

Bryan Van Donslear said...

Just curious to see if you tried this out with rings and/or a suspension trainer like TRX. If so how well did it work? Was it stable? Any unexpected quirks with using it in that way?

Great review.

Thanks,

Bryan

ntmb said...

we added draw hangers to ours so we could hang rings and could use bands and the like onto it and it's been fine.

despite having a bar you cannot (or shouldnt) do pull ups on it because its there to support the board... we of course ignore this as we have strong door frames.

the board has performed amazingly well and we use it all the time. the newer version is stronger still

Theboyrobot said...

Hi! Do you know how wide the two bars that go inside of the door to hook around to the other side are? My door is sturdy but small, like 23 inches small.


Thanks!

ntmb said...

22inches

Theboyrobot said...

Thanks! One more question, I see above that you just screwed it in, what kind and length of screws did you use? I have the metolius hang board too. Thanks!

ntmb said...

number 10 2 or 2 1/2 inch screws

Theboyrobot said...

Thanks so much! This review of the slate is currently the best and most informative one on the Web.

ntmb said...

no problem, thanks for the props
we aim to be the best site out there

Anonymous said...

Does it make a difference if the hanging board is mounted high or low on the BSC? That's the only thing I haven't been able to figure out.

ntmb said...

no, I have one low and one high
the only problem with high is reaching it, we've had no problems

Matt Dunning said...

Where can i buy one in the UK? i cant find one or a company that delivers here.

Thanks,
Matt

ntmb said...

Matt,

Blank Slate should ship internationally

Anonymous said...

Hi,

I saw in the interview it said they were planning on coming out with a stool to accompany the board. Is this still happening? Is it in the works or was this idea dropped? Thanks!

ntmb said...

the idea was dropped; I asked Blank Slate and they replied:
We dropped the idea after making a prototype and trying it out ourselves for a while - although the idea sounded pretty good, the amount of training you could get was quite limited. We decided that upper body training was more suitable for home training